Women Were Oppressed for Thousands of Years
The notion that women have been oppressed for thousands of years is simply intolerable. Women were never oppressed any more than men were in history, but the feminist lie that they have been persists even today and is accepted by the majority of normal women too. This lie is told to children at school and reinforced in higher education too! There seems to be no stopping it.
The fact is men never seeked to purposely exclude women from working life and oppress them through marriage. Through much of history women simply could not do most of the jobs men were required to do - military, coal mining, construction, plumbing, hunting, farming and most other jobs that required hard physical labor. Women could not realistically do these jobs and therefore could not realistically stand to gain any power in the working world. I ask you now to consider how much different life was only 50 years ago with all the technologies, medicines and sciences that didn't yet exist. It was only by the 1960s that we began to see men emerge from traditional heavy industries to work in office buildings with typewriters, heating and air conditioning. This advancement in technology freed men from work in hard labor and also gave women the opportunity to work on the same level as men for the first time. This was also at the same time the women's rights and liberation movement popped up. A coincidence??? I THINK NOT!
While men still worked down in dirty coal pits, were drafted into the army and constructing our towns and cities women had no desire to be part of this. They were for the most part happy with their position looking after the children at home. This was the only thing they could realistically do. However, today we are told that men have oppressed women and kept them out the work place while forcing them to stay home and look after the house and children. But nothing could be further from the truth. Even today women view jobs such as coal mining, pipe fitting, construction and engineering as beneath them. They want the most comfortable jobs in the most comfortable offices that pay the highest salaries. Women consider themselves intellectuals and working in jobs that require hard labor as a waste of their talents. But, as i have said before, if you could put up scaffolding, lay a road or build a house by pressing buttons on a keyboard then women would no doubt want these jobs. We would also be told how women were traditionally discriminated against in these industries and that male chauvinism was ripe. Women are now given jobs for simply being women, not because they can do the work better, but so gender balance targets can be met and so businesses can operate without fear of being sued or taken to tribunals. Indeed life has become so easy and effortless for women that they have become much less inventive and creative than they ever have been. Because feminism has made life so easy for women there is nothing left to encourage them to be creative and entrepreneurial. All the greatest inventions to come from women were before feminism and the notion that women have been oppressed for thousands of years took hold and became accepted in society.
Lets take a look!
- Car Heater - Margaret Wilcox 1893
- Circular Saw - Tabitha Babbit 1812
- Cooking Stove - Elizabeth Hawk 1867
- Electric Hot Water Heater - Ida Forbes 1917
- Elevated Railway - Mary Walton 1881
- Fire Escape - Anna Connelly 1887
- Kevlar - Stephanie Kwolek 1964
- Wind Sheild Wiper - Mary Anderson 1903
- Refrigerator - Florence Parpart 1914
- Life Raft - Maria Beaseley 1882
These ten examples are just some of women's greatest achievements, and these achievements came from the time when women were made to compete and had incentive to. Since the 1970s women have contributed very little to technology, science and medicine. Instead we now give them all the rewards one would normally get for such a contribution, but tell them they dont need to actually do the work. Women live a life of privilege and exemption, and do not want to give this up. Who can blame them! If i had such privilege and ease in my life i certainly would not want to lose it!
The fact men still outperform women is due to many differences between the sexes, not least the fact men still take more risk, more sacrifice and still have incentive to be creative. Leadership is also a male quality more so than a woman's. Traditionally when two groups compete with each other, one will always perform better. You cannot make them equal and attempting to do so hinders progress.
Women have not been oppressed for thousands of years. They may have been ignored and there was arguably nothing wrong with this considering how little they could realistically do compared to men. Women did not have the physical strength to build the ancient roads in the Roman Empire, nor did they have the physical strength to build the Pyramids in Ancient Egypt. But despite this, they still had significant political power, ruled Kingdoms and led men into battle. Yes their influence has been less than that of men, but as men are primarily the leaders, builders, inventors and soldiers mostly they stand to gain the power that comes from this. Since when has leadership been easy, or carrying out hard physical work that kills you? Its not easy, it never was and still isn't. Men even today suffer the most work related injuries, deaths and diseases, and they do so because primarily men do the hardest jobs that women don't want. Jobs women see as beneath them.
Women often cite their oppression in politics as evidence they have been treated as second class citizens, but we must also look at the nature of politics throughout most of our history. Traditionally even in the West, Democracy was frowned upon. The Founding Fathers of the United States were very opposed to it as they believed it represented a threat to economic growth and prosperity. The power of the electorate was limited and so were the number of people who could vote. Working Class males had no right to vote, they were considered as second class citizens, and African American people were not even considered as citizens at all. Government was the business of running and protecting the country, and people had little say over how this was done. It took a while for men to gain influence in politics, and women had little choice but to wait for their turn to gain the same rights too. Women could only follow the lead of men in these times and this is very arguably part of human nature - the development of our species. Given our limited technology, education and understanding of the world we simply didn't know any better. We cannot study history and say that people only 100 years ago should have known better or know all that we do now.
Indeed women have been protected throughout history, we have sought to keep them away from the dangers that men faced - war, work, politics etc. In the 1800s there were laws to protect and prevent women working more than 12hrs a day and from doing certain kinds of work. NO such laws protected men and boys. Men and boys were used by employers and treated brutally. If they did not work to their employers demands they could find themselves blacklisted and out of work permanently thus leaving their wives and children to starve. Men have always had a lot of concern for women and went to great lengths to look after them. The rule of "Women and Children First" is still part of our mentality, but women show no gratitude for this. When the Titanic sank (during the days women were oppressed) women and children were given the first seats on the life boats while the men remained behind and went down with the ship. Most survivors were women and most of the dead were men. Men are programmed by nature to be non violent to women, and to protect them. In our modern times of "equality" i ask you, the reader, to imagine a holiday cruise ship sinking today. Do you believe the women on it would usher the men and children into the life boats and shout "save yourselves!" and bravely go down with the ship?
Surely if women were so oppressed the men on the Titanic would have taken most of the life boats. In a time when women were considered inferior and less valuable this surely would have made sense!
Women have had power in history, not as much power as men, but as much as was realistic. They have ruled countries, invented new technologies, discovered new sciences and whats more they did all this at the same time they were supposedly oppressed by men. The notion that marriage is oppressive to women is also ludicrous. Marriage bonds a family and identifies it. One purpose of life is to reproduce, preserve ourselves and this is an instinct that resides in every human being. A woman taking a mans name in marriage is perfectly natural as this helps identify any offspring as his. The woman is always the mother of the child she has so there is no need to identify it as hers in any other way. Men by contrast need a way to identify their genetic legacy and for women and children to take his name he can do this. A woman has never given birth to a child that was not her own, but men can easily be duped in raising children, which are not theirs. Anyway, considering how today's marriage laws oppress men, most women are better off even if they get divorced! If you are a woman you get the house, the kids, the car and maintenance payments from a man you never need to look at again. Even without children you get maintenance payments!
The idea that women were oppressed and still are is absoloutely rediculous. There is no law that oppresses women, but there are plenty that oppress men. Even in criminal law women are shown more leniency. Courts throughout the United States have been told to treat female criminals more lenient than males for the same crime. In the United Kingdom the government has welcomed a report to close women's prisons. This would mean a woman convicted of the same crime as man can only be given community service if it suits her circumstances. The idea is that women who commit crimes are vulnerable and need help rather than punishment. But despite boys and men suffering more learning difficulties and poverty they wont get any kind of sympathy. Women will still be allowed to make up the juries and be the judges and government ministers who send men to prison from crimes they themselves can never go to prison for. This feminist inspired policy truely represents the oppression of men.
Women can say what they want, dress how they want, do what they want and act how they want. Whats more is that they can do all these things and not be held accountable for their behaviour if it hurts someone else or even causes themselves harm. This is not the behaviour of people who are oppressed. Men by contrast can lose their jobs for simply saying something that is deemed offensive by women, and men who act out in irrational ways wont be excused by their personal circumstances - such as poverty, lack of education and mental illness.
Women were never oppressed any more than men were. They were in fact protected from much of the harship and oppression men faced. Today women live lives of privelege and exemption, seek lives of pleasure and ease. But men are paying for it!
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For the last 50 years feminists insisted that the patriarchy, which is as an equally absurd description of the facts as calling Nazism the “moustachism” just because Hitler had one, has oppressed women and privileged men.
The privileged male was sent to war for whatever reason to die, the privileged male was sent to challenge nature, alone, without any support.
30,000,000 men died horrible deaths in WWII, 10,000,000 privileged male were killed in WWI, zero women, while many women were more interested in shopping, as the advertisement of the time reflects.
The life of the oppressed woman was held at a higher value than the privileged man, so that the life boats that left the titanic left behind men to die while saving women.
It’s only a manifestation of the disgraceful nature of some women to see history in one eye just to justify male hatred.
There can be no doubt that women have been treated as property, bought and sold like livestock. They have been victims of barbaric practices such as suttee, beaten like animals without legal protection, and on and on. The poster above has no concept of history. Men and women alike were starved and slaughtered in Nazi death camps, Soviet prisons, the killing fields of Cambodia, the Cultural Revolution in China, Rwanda, etc, etc, etc.
Men were victims of wars as soldiers because it was important to keep the female breeding stock safe so that we could fight another war in the next generation. To say that "men of priviledge" died in wars is to slap the face of those men who died because they were drafted to fight. in s
"[Women] still had significant political power" -- Why do you say this? Because a few women were queens? No. You can't back this up, no matter how hard you try. Get real. You might have some good points here about men being oppressed, but you make yourself ridiculous when you overstate your case.
Jennifer that is the typical nonsense a woman will always come out with. The point is women were never more oppressed than men, indeed men have always been treated far worse than women have. As you a woman you look to other people to solve your problems. By saying there has never been a female President you are suggesting we really need to put mechanisms in place that will one day soon ensure a female President. If women cannot achieve this goal on their own then they are simply NOT cut out for the job. By artificially puting a woman in the office of President you will be holding back better and more capable men, so as a result you will in fact be discriminating against men. If a woman ever wants to be President then she must work for it herself, not look to the state to implement laws, shortlists and regulations that make it easier for her. If women cannot compete with men on the same level then too bad.
Leadership is after all a male quality more so than a female one. Many women, but not all, are terrible in leadership positions. Men and womens brains are designed by nature for different roles whether you like this or not.
Everything men have done, throughout the history of western civilization has benefited women greatly. They were never bought and sold like livestock. Indeed you are not looking at the situations you mention in the context of the times they happened. Humans before the luxuries of modern living had to take some questionable steps in order to survive. Now you can quote the witch hunts, women not being allowed to vote etc. But what ever you put here about women being treated as second class citizens i can show you that men were treated the same and even worse!
Jennifer below suggested i dont like women because of my criticisms. This is typical shaming tactics desgined to try and shut a man up if he says anything unfavourable about women. What makes women so special??? Why can we criticize them and point out their flaws?
You will find shaming language is common if you do not support feminism or womens points of view. Women are weaker than men, they look to men to provide and care for them. If you question or criticise women they will shame you because they dont believe you are doing your duty as a man in looking after them. DO NOT fall for this. The more a woman trys to shame you the better - that just means you are right, exposing uncomfortable and unfair truths which for them hits a raw nerve
Indeed for men to vote they must sign up for the draft, meaning any man if the state deems it necessary can be drafted in to fight a war he doesnt believe in. Mean while women can vote without this risk.
Patriarchy is bullshit, there is NO such thing. What women call Patriarchy is in fact Western civilization - all the nice luxuries, living conditions, medicines and technologies pioneered by men that make their lives easier, and indeed allow things like feminism to exist. Not one thing in feminist theory regarding any issue is correct. Its all lies, half truths and twisted facts. These women hate men and boys passionately, indeed women have no protective instinct for males as we do for them. What ever the obvious inequalities men suffer - homelessnes, poverty, unemployment, genital mutilation - women have no gut instinct to get up and help them the way they would help themselves and other women. Its almost as though these women hate and resent men for what nature gave to them but did not give to women. Men and women are very different, designed for different roles - women for child rearing and men for the environment. Thats why men are the ones who build civilizations, discover new medicines, creat new technologies and send us up into space. Men and women are different, and because women dont naturally have the same abilities men do, or find it much more difficult in competing with men, they always look to the state to implement laws that will hold men back and allow them to leap forward. Feminism cannot exist without socialism doing its bidding. Without the state feminism would be powerless. They always need more laws and more of the tax payers money to get what they want. And what they want never results in equality. It results in men being denied opportunities they have worked very hard for so a less capable woman can be given priority instead.
Krystal, you have no idea what you are talking about. The point is men have always been treated far worse than women have, and women like you fail to see the issues of the past in the context of the times. You only see things from a narrow modern perspective. You have NO clue how difficult life was even just a century ago, and how the so called oppression of women in these days also benefited them and their offspring greatly. Comparing yourself to a black slave is offensive. Indeed most slaves of any race through history were MEN.
McLaren, you have an interesting view of history
A few points of correction ....
1. Slaves in history were both sexes. Most were not men. Women for comfort, men to lug and carry, although that is a generalization.
2. ... homelessnes, poverty, unemployment, genital mutilation are practiced on men and women alike. I live in a large Canadian city. I see all of this with both sexes.
3. Men and women are different, that is true. Your assertions of male mental superiority are absurd. If you truly believe that civilization is the product of men and not both sexes, you are rather myopic. It is the cooperation of men and women that helped civilization flourish.
4. "...they dont believe you are doing your duty as a man in looking after them." Interesting twist. Many just want to be left alone to be a human being.
5. "Leadership is after all a male quality more so than a female one. Many women, but not all, are terrible in leadership positions." Surely you cannot be serious. To spent a lot of time arguing this absurd point is a waste of time.
As to whether men have been treated worse, think on this .. men have been used as cannon fodder by the powerful. If we protect our breeding stock, we can always make more guys. Society's rules are set by the rulers and priests. We guys are more expendible than our women. That is because it take a good couple of decades to raise a person to be a good soldier. That job we essentially defer to women. "Come home with your shield or on it."
The essential issue is equality. If a person is denied opportunity because of their sex that is unacceptable. To pay women less for the same job is wrong. To assume a women cannot lead the government or a company is ridiculous. The inferior members of society are always the victims of the strong. To perpetuate ancient stereotypes and beliefs is to deny that the achieving of equality for all people should be our common purpose. Although men and women have differences, it is important to see that they do complement each other and together make up the human race. I am not going to get into any esoteric religious nonsense because it is often used by men to just bolster up this male superiority ideal by using faith as a tool of control. Without the other, the human race would cease to exist. See each other as essential to our species survival and stop trying to make the other a slave or a victim.
1. Slaves in history were mostly men. Indeed most African American slaves were males. The information for this exists so please don't be scared to look it up
2. Men make up 90% of the homeless. This is FACT and homelessness can very well be described as a male issue. Men are also the majority of the unemployed and it should be noted genital mutilation on women is rare and illegal. So please learn what it is you are talking about.
3. Civilization is primarily the product of men yes. Women by comparison have contributed very little in terms of culture, technology, medicine, science and politics. Nature designed men and women for different roles - men for dealing with the environment and women for dealing with child rearing. Don't like this??? Then take it up with nature.
4. Women don't seek to be left alone, they seek constant provision, care and protection from men and the state. The state is now the primary carer of women. Women will never stop seeking provision from the state and the state will never stop giving it to them. This costs society billions, curtails men's freedoms and puts women first at all costs. Women are in fact a great burden to society.
Men have been treated worse through history where as women have been protected from much of the hardships they face. You mistake women's prevention to contribute in certain areas as oppression. Even women's exclusion from politics was designed to protect them. Most men did not have the right to vote and nor was the right to vote based on sex. It was based upon class and occupation, and those who did have this right had major expectations and responsibilities put upon them - something women were keen to avoid. Even today women are exempt from responsibility and accountability. For a man to vote in the USA he must sign up for the draft. No such responsibility is placed upon women. Whenever a woman does something wrong the blame is usually given to a man and she is deemed not responsible for her actions - either a man is to blame or some kind of syndrome or mental illness. A woman can never be blamed.
Equality will never exist and men are much less equal now than are women. The pay gap you mention is a myth, women are now paid between 1% and 8% more than men in the same jobs plus they receive help from government to be given employment and get the high paid board positions without actually being qualified for them. If a person (male or female) cannot make it on their own then they do not deserve to be there. Artificially putting women in positions of power is wrong and unfair. The pay gap its self never existed and was a result of men and women choosing different careers. Women chose professions that paid less and worked less hours. Women only have themselves to blame. Men should not be held back so women can be given what they want, but this is exactly what is happening. Government gender quotas, affirmative action and other mechanisms put in place to give unqualified, undeserving women what they want has to stop. Men have always treated women respectfully, indeed the human race would not have gotten to where it is now by oppressing its women. If men treated women like shit and oppressed them then they would not be very successful reproductive wise. Getting a woman to bare your child and have a family with by treating her like shit makes no sense at all. Women have been protected and made exempt from much of the worlds hardships all throughout history. This continues to happen today, we give women what they want, make sure they have greater freedoms and opportunities than men do and make them feel as safe and secure as possible - much to the detriment of men and boys. Men's freedoms, opportunities and even their very nature is suppressed now so that women feel safe and able to compete.
Krystal 2 years ago
... Saying women were never oppressed is like saying there were never black slaves, and the holocaust never happened. It's just historically inaccurate. There are still countries where women are bought and sold and married off to old men at age seven... We are indeed lucky here in America as women to be treated as equal citizens by law and yet there has never been a women president.
I don't know your sex but it does not matter, either way I think you yourself have a distainful outlook on women. Women can be smart and strong and capable.